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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2014, 08:20:38 PM »
I"ll just post the screenshot of the overwhelming public vote ban that everyone thinks you cheat.   That's my demo.

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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2014, 08:23:08 PM »
I"ll just post the screenshot of the overwhelming public vote ban that everyone thinks you cheat.   That's my demo.

Which would just be a lynch mob of stupidity instead of the truth.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2014, 08:30:57 PM »
Ok, I'm just going to concede more than half of my points because I was unaware that you actually WERE iShank and the fact that I mainly joined this argument to defend this guy against you because I thought you were an arrogant asshole, which you are, and not to defend against him hacking. I also watched some POV demons of clockwork to get a feel of competitive from a first person perspective and you are right. I just assumed you were some troll due to your attitude and the fact that you were banned.  (I'm assuming you are iShank based on average latency and how you seem to know some people on this server well, etc. ex: you being pocketed by Revels).

However, even through this, I doubt Nehalem is cheating and I believe you are unjustly attacking him based solely on these things: The age of his steam account (if he's not lying), hours on TF2(if he's not lying), his KDA with other classes, and the fact that there is nothing to gain from hacking in TF2. If you can convince me that he is a hacker by showing me the flaws with this reasoning, I am more than happy to apologize to you and assume Nehalem is a hacker. Just as a note, public opinion does not matter at all to me.

Also, "all the good people" got banned is so wrong, unless there are a lot of "good people" who have like 0 points on this server that got banned. Its only vhalin, who got banned justly as he was an asshole. Poppin still has alts.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2014, 08:35:12 PM »
About my hours played and the 9 year steam badge, I must have forgotten to add it here.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/fckj4umy9jb4683/profile.PNG#
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2014, 08:41:19 PM »
Ok, I'm just going to concede more than half of my points because I was unaware that you actually WERE iShank and the fact that I mainly joined this argument to defend this guy against you because I thought you were an arrogant asshole, which you are, and not to defend against him hacking. I also watched some POV demons of clockwork to get a feel of competitive from a first person perspective and you are right. I just assumed you were some troll due to your attitude and the fact that you were banned.  (I'm assuming you are iShank based on average latency and how you seem to know some people on this server well, etc. ex: you being pocketed by Revels).

idk if ur high but i dont remember revels ever pocketing me he plays sniper not medic lol. 

However, even though this, I doubt Nehalem is cheating and I believe you are unjustly attacking him based solely on these things: The age of his steam account (if he's not lying), hours on TF2(if he's not lying), his KDA with other classes, and the fact that there is nothing to gain from hacking in TF2. If you can convince me that he is a hacker by showing me the flaws with this reasoning, I am more than happy to apologize to you and assume Nehalem is a hacker. Just as a note, public opinion does not matter at all to me.

His KDR, KDA, and KPM are on-par/higher than those of professional players that received money playing this game. Nehalem says that he's not good enough for competitive. LOL that's obvously wrong as based off his stats he's already fucking ready to move up into the highest echelons of competitive tf2 and do just fine there.

Also, "all the good people" got banned is so wrong, unless there are a lot of "good people" who have like 0 points on this server that got banned. Its only vhalin, who got banned justly as he was an asshole. Poppin still has alts.

every single person from the outback crew was initially permabanned, and for the ones that were not using alt accounts, i had to argue their bans as they were really unjust. as vhalin was never unbanned, the majority of the players moved on to different servers and rarely play here anymore. so, yes, you can say that all the good players are gone.

and the fact that there is nothing to gain from hacking in TF2

i guess you werent paying attention when we were discussing m4risa, and how she used a triggerbot to gain her team unfair wins and championship titles (that have now been stripped from her and the team).
there's a lot to gain from hacking in any game, be in minecraft, world of warcraft, cs, or even our own tf2.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2014, 08:45:11 PM »
About my hours played and the 9 year steam badge, I must have forgotten to add it here.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/fckj4umy9jb4683/profile.PNG#

here are the flaws in his reasoning - he still tries using his 3k hours and 9 year badge as a defense. I thought we went over this as i showed u examples of 2 people with more hours than you that have been found to be cheating. i guess if 2 isnt enough, i can always bring up more examples
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2014, 08:46:14 PM »
idk if ur high but i dont remember revels ever pocketing me he plays sniper not medic lol. 

jk it was Sharpy? one of your ex {ENC} bubbies I think... , revels and sharpshot or whatever he likes to be called by are the same to me, both really good snipers. It was only for a while, maybe 1 hour?

Also, just because he's not ready yet does not have to do with skill level. There's the struggle of finding a team, finding the time, and finding the commitment.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2014, 08:51:40 PM »
I am on the edge here. First off, why would start a thread of people accusing you of cheating? Yes, people accuse you of cheating and also an admin but who gives a f*%&$. They got nothing on you. So what do you do? You move on. It is not until you see the situation getting out of control and you actually see that you are on the brink of getting banned is when you step in. This thing got out of control BECAUSE you started these threads. Multiple threads to be exact which draws even more attention to yourself. And if you base off people calling you cheating people like bobertz, then you should simply ignore it. Obviously you havent been here on hyperion long enough to see that bobertz and other brainless players here that nothing productive have come out of their chat except pure profanity. Yea, an admin accuses you of cheating, but its tiger. Tiger is just tiger. Yea, muting you wasnt right by his part either.

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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2014, 08:51:53 PM »
idk if ur high but i dont remember revels ever pocketing me he plays sniper not medic lol. 

His KDR, KDA, and KPM are on-par/higher than those of professional players that received money playing this game. Nehalem says that he's not good enough for competitive. LOL that's obvously wrong as based off his stats he's already fucking ready to move up into the highest echelons of competitive tf2 and do just fine there.

That is inflated because of the skill level of my opponents can be low at times (bobert/womentiger level). June and drunk uncle think I cheat but I can still be an adult and accept that they're both good at this game and when people like that are stacked on the other team I don't get 5+K:D anymore. Kaitrez/gatling joe/matsuba/Hng/Max!/r$/.badwolf and more that I can't remember off the top of my head right now have no problem outplaying me. There are many players here who I struggle to go 1:1 against.

I said I wasn't good enough for high level play because I have played against platinum/invite players and watched their streams on twitch, I'm not even close.




you still using your 3k hours and 9 year badge as a defense? I thought we went over this as i showed u examples of 2 people with more hours than you that have been found to be cheating. i guess if 2 isnt enough, i can always bring up more examples

The above post mentioned if I was being truthful about the hours and badge so I put that there.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2014, 08:55:24 PM »
I am on the edge here. First off, why would start a thread of people accusing you of cheating? Yes, people accuse you of cheating and also an admin but who gives a f*%&$. They got nothing on you. So what do you do? You move on. It is not until you see the situation getting out of control and you actually see that you are on the brink of getting banned is when you step in. This thing got out of control BECAUSE you started these threads. Multiple threads to be exact which draws even more attention to yourself. And if you base off people calling you cheating people like bobertz, then you should simply ignore it. Obviously you havent been here on hyperion long enough to see that bobertz and other brainless players here that nothing productive have come out of their chat except pure profanity. Yea, an admin accuses you of cheating, but its tiger. Tiger is just tiger. Yea, muting you wasnt right by his part either.

I made the thread because people are crying hax in voice chat. Two admins talking shit (calling me an asshole) and mentioning a demo in the admin section showing my hax. If it was just regulars then I would still want an admin to enforce the rules and shut them up. It's very rude to listen to that shit all day. Just check bobertz chat log lol.

The thread was meant to show that I wasn't hiding anything from them and was willing to provide anything asked of me. it was meant to silence the crowd, not stir it.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2014, 09:01:46 PM »
I made the thread because people are crying hax in voice chat. Two admins talking shit (calling me an asshole) and mentioning a demo in the admin section showing my hax. If it was just regulars then I would still want an admin to enforce the rules and shut them up. It's very rude to listen to that shit all day. Just check bobertz chat log lol.

The thread was meant to show that I wasn't hiding anything from them and was willing to provide anything asked of me. it was meant to silence the crowd, not stir it.

i think it does stir it. just look how many people are online in this site right now. There is never that many people online at the same time. Obviously, it is because the outbreak of this thread.

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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2014, 09:38:07 PM »
spec'd this dude the other night while on the same team and his cross hair was not smooth.  it jumped around a lot, but not as much as some i've seen before.  he (i'm assuming it's a guy) pulled off some pretty difficult if not impossible shots. 

next, i switched to spectator mode, and interestingly, he started missing a lot of shots.

imo, this guy is not a very good cheater.  the cognitive dissonance is overwhelming if you're somewhat of a good person.

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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2014, 09:58:51 PM »
Kaitrez/gatling joe/matsuba/Hng/Max!/r$/.badwolf and more that I can't remember off the top of my head right now have no problem outplaying me. There are many players here who I struggle to go 1:1 against.

I said I wasn't good enough for high level play because I have played against platinum/invite players and watched their streams on twitch, I'm not even close.

Can't seem to find any of these plat/invite players that you see you're "not even close" to on this list. Can't find anyone else on this list who had more than even a day played on the server, besides yourself, of course. Kind of wierd, being that you say you don't even compare to the skills level of these players that have a third of your K/D.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2014, 10:07:41 PM »
I said against me. Just because I can pick off more low skilled players doesn't mean I'm cheating. At the bottom of the stats page you can click KPD twice. For an example, during the last two weeks I have killed you 25 times and you have killed me 25 times. The hacks are unreal right?

This ishank troll has actually killed me more times than I have killed him. The irony.
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Re: For the people accusing me of cheating
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2014, 10:24:47 PM »
I said against me. Just because I can pick off more low skilled players doesn't mean I'm cheating. At the bottom of the stats page you can click KPD twice. For an example, during the last two weeks I have killed you 25 times and you have killed me 25 times. The hacks are unreal right?

lol are u an idiot? what u just said doesnt apply to anything rofl. u killing someone else the same number of times as they are killing you doesnt mean anything. what matters is how many people u kill in addition to u killing that one specific person (drunk uncle as an example). obviously u having the highest KPD and other stats in the ENTIRE server (apart from a few players that joined for a few minutes then left) means that you manage to get a very impressive number of players in-between.

This ishank troll has actually killed me more times than I have killed him. The irony.
im literally speechless as to how this has to do with anything. apparently if i can kill you on a 32 payload spamfest server it means you're not hacking?

offtopic: congrats to nehalem for hitting the 100% forum activity bar. an achievement worth commemorating.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2014, 10:30:23 PM by TotallyNotAnIshank »
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