Ugh. Fast respawn. Hate that thing so much I'd rather keep it payload only

Edit: I'd rather have KOTH on the server than fast respawn

I'm positive you're thinking about the A/D version of gorge.  Whenever 5gorge comes up in a vote, players vote it as the next map thinking it's just regular gorge.  It's pretty funny watching most of the blue team sit in their spawn when the match starts thinking it's still set up time, when they need to be running to the middle point. Makes me laugh every time.  I hate the 5cp version as well.

That's a very fair answer.  I personally do the same thing with maps i don't particularly like.  If they come up, fine.  If it's around that 1.5-2 hour mark, I'm looking to have a break from the game anyways. The point is, that even when stating that you detest one or two maps that come up (I have a couple on my list also), we both will still play them if they come up once in a while.  Just not something we want to play every third round or so. 

As of now, we have 7 PL, 6 CP (including Fastlane  ), 6 A/D, 2 PLR, and 3 KOTH.  I originally thought since KOTH maps were so short we could get away with 3 of them in the rotation, without it seeming like they come up all of the time. After reading your post, maybe just Harvest might be enough.  Harvest because there's more dislike towards Lakeside and Nucleus. I would still suggest keeping one or two in the rotation, though.

I also asked about it being via a voting system.  Of course, it's completely up to the community to have one or not.  It works great on the payload server because it's familiar and everyone loves payload.  My hesitation about it being on a *new mixed mode server is that some maps would never get a proper chance. I also think about the disappointment some vocal players have when the map they want doesn't get chosen, because they choose to say how much they hate that particular map before it's even switched over.  I've noticed it turns into a snowball effect on the payload server and it really is quite annoying.  My hesitation is that this same snowball effect would happen on this mixed server without giving it some time.

Yes, I left CTF out deliberately because I don't have very much experience playing all of them on 32 man mixed mode servers.  It's not that they were not in the rotation at all, they just never got voted for. The very few times they did get passed it was mostly because everyone just wanted to do something different for one map (similar to why a server would want to play 1 round of degroot).  I should have said that in my original post but it slipped my mind. If this thread gets enough attention I'll edit it.  It does seem like we both agree they should not be added, though.

Not entirely leave out CTF. I think CTF_Turbine and CTF_Well work pretty well. CTF_Well works surprisingly well I might add (since the whole experience with gorge 5gorge for example).

2fort can work well if people really play it as it's meant to be played but it generally just degenerates into a deathmatch so I usually avoid it. (and it's too small for 32 players really)
And I don't have enough experience on CTF_Sawmill so I can't pronounce myself regarding that map.

And I want to make a note regarding me leaving when KOTH maps come on. I don't like all the stock maps, for example I dislike cp_gullywash but if it comes up after the 90-120min mark I would still play it. KOTH, as mentioned, no.

I keep mixing up 5gorge and gorge. Which is which? I know I love one of them (the attack defend one I think) and I hate the control points one.

I'm going to ask you this because I think it's an important point.  If a KOTH map came up on a server that had mixed modes, would you stick around for that match if you knew there was a better map around the corner?  Maybe via a voting system?

Depends really. If I just joined the server (like the map changes after I joined) I would probably ride it out. If I've been playing for let's say 90min-120min then most likely I would either leave for good or leave the server to do something else (dinner, shower etc) and then come back when KOTH is done.

I truly detest KOTH because I feel it's not in the spirit of what the original TF2 was about and if I want a pure deathmatch game I'd just go play Call of Doody.

Edit: From my experience with this community (or rather the community that played on a different server before they migrated here) KOTH maps generally killed the server. There was always a vocal minority that really wanted to play it but the moment the KOTH maps got voted (somehow) the server would die. Rarely would it survive the map and I'm talking about 2 years ago when the game had even more players than currently.

Shame.

I've never once since TF2 came out touched a 24/7 exclusive server and I'm not gonna start touching one now either.

And to go in a little more detail. By affiliating it with Hyperion it would mean of course giving mod power to the same mods, reserve slots, game tracking etc. Basically it would be a hyperion server, except that I'm picking up the tab for it as long as it's a mixed sever.

Yeah I like a mixed server as well. When I used to stay in europe there's a british server that runs mixed maps (and no silly insta-respawn) and it was tremendous.

Besides, with map voting if the majority want they can vote a PL, otherwise if everyone feels for a change we can vote for a CP.