While I am emphatic when I play

so I totally feel like they are bullying me.

AHAHAHAH!

Are you Conservative? Cause you are taking one right out of their playbook! 'gets held accountable, then plays the victim'

...his friends and he tell me not to talk, and then talk shit about me. When I do speak up about the way they are treating me, a few times I have been banned.

Whitewash much?

We ask you to stop SCREAMING INTO THE MIC, the same sentence over and over and over and over and over! You "speaking up for yourself" sure sounds like telling us to "fuck off" and "shut the fuck up" and the like.

I pay my monthly fee and have been playing on this server for several years

It doesn't give you the right to do the aforementioned

Enforcer is maybe on here for 3 or 4 years and like I have pointed out, he doesnt like when I talk and his friends agree (trinsic and wolfpup-mostly), so I totally feel like they are bullying me.

Nice terminology. We have both told you repeatedly we have no issue with you talking! We do have issue with you screaming what basically equates to mic spamming!

Did your parents ever hold you accountable for your actions growing up? Because it sure doesn't seem so. Or they did and you decided to just throw their good parenting in their face for internet lolz. We simply hold you to account for your screaming and yelling. But yeah, let's call it bullying.

I will report this type of behaviour to Steam if they continue to abuse this admin previlage on TF2 or any other game, not cool.

They will simply point you to do what you are doing here, bring it to the owners attention and take it up with them.

I have dozens of friends playing on this server and I will petition them to boycott Hyperion because of abusive treament.

One mans accountability is another mans abuse I guess. It would be a crying shame rather than you manning up, stopping screaming the same shit over and over in game and we all carry on fragging each other in game. Punishing Plasma because you can't follow the rules seems wrong, no? Same question to his friends? I know several of you don't like me, that's fine, but to act like what he does is ok just to take a stable at me, not cool.
 

No one else complains about my speaking during gameplay

Oh I beg to differ. (And you spelled "screaming" wrong.) Maybe your to busy screaming "Up the left team Up the left everybody we're going up the left come on people up the left" to hear them, maybe?

Individual players can mute if they don't want to hear me talk, but these guys have gone too far.

Yes, they do. I am not an individual, I am an admin so I have to be able to respond to any request without having to go in an un-mute players to do so.

And again, I have told you several times I have no issue with you talking game talk like the rest of the people do, it the repetitive screaming we have issue with! But you play the victim.

Wolfcunt

Let's start right there....and Vector thinks I have person feelings in this?

Wolfcunt was threated to ban me by speaking out for Vector when I messaged Enforcer.

Yes, yes I did, and was I wrong? Why yes I was. I do apologize to you and Zed but I'm at the end of my rope with Vector, and I'm not alone. (See Vector, that's how you own up to something you've done wrong, you apologize and endeavour not to do it again.) So the last think I need to hear is people trying to make me out like the bad guy here when Vector has had ample verbal warnings, temp mic bans, and lets be clear here, this, my first time EVER banning Vector!! ...for a week. And this is over months, and months! It can not be argued he was not given ample warnings, dare I say more than some would have received. (Partially because I knew this here thread was the exact outcome I was trying to avoid. We all know there are lines in the sand drawn!) Now he has to man up, deal with the consequences of his actions and in a weeks time he can come play again. Hopefully learning something in that time. You act like he's been IP banned or something!

I told Enforcer it is not fair to Vector he could have just muted him and play the game.

After everything I've typed previously, please do share how this is "not fare"?

I had the same shit happen tonight.  Apparently, if you disagree with an admin now they can say you're personally "targeting" them, but I'm not targeting you because of who you are, I'm targeting you because of your role as admin and the decisions you make.  How am I a bully for speaking against admins?  You can't have it both ways.

Who claimed you were personally targeting them???

I got autobalanced and the instant I hit the other team wolfpup started going in on me for being sniper.  I ended up leaving and playing a different game because he just wouldn't accept that I just got autobalanced. 

Says the guy who takes any comment, not even directed at him at times as personal! I was making the whole team aware we don't need more that 2 snipers. I didn't even know you were auto-balanced nor playing sniper but you assumed it was directed solely at you. It had nothing to do with accepting you were auto-balanced. Another victim.

I started playing here because I saw all the chevrons from slaughterhouse people, but it's really becoming a weird dramatic place and not so fun.

I understand that since I made my other post that I've been placed on a list by enforcer and wolfpup of people who have complained.  If it's really like that on this server, just ban people and don't be all dramatic.

 

You should hear the things people say about you, you apparently bring some of the weird drama yourself! But right, you are the victim because you read more into something than was implied. My bad.

LMFAO! What list? I didn't give 2 shit's one way or another about it......when I read it only recently!!! Again, you have perceived some slight were there was none.

I know Vector can be loud and annoying but this doesn't seem like a bannable issue.

What would you do, after he has been muted MANY times in the past, asked nicely to please stop, just for him to start right back up if not the next day. Then more recently just telling us to shut the fuck up and fuck off.

Obviously the soft approach has failed. So, what would you do, seriously, what is left to try? And again, it's for 7 days.....SEVEN DAYS. You'd think I was looking to string him up or something.

Wolfpup has a right to be frustrated but to flip out like that to cowking and threaten a ban when he hasn't broken any rule? cmon

And as mentioned you are correct, I shouldn't have done it no questions!

A few months back when you had the choice to join a team, it would always be certain players on one team, certain players on the other.

And here is were part of this whole thing started to go south, IMO. I've always been open and honest with my opinion about the auto-join, I'm not a fan. Beforehand, it was understood "Blu" team didn't care about Vector's screaming, if they did they just muted him and they prefer to not talk as much other than in game call outs. Those of us on "Red" team prefer not to hear it, and like to talk outside game stuff. Some on Blu don't like to play Red because, and visa versa for the opposite reasons.

So with the auto-scramble people are forced to play with people they'd rather not, or don't get to play with their friends like before.

Hes tolerable now.

Even often fun.

But, anyone has the option to mute him.

He can be from time to time yes, I would agree.

It's been known to happen.

See previous statement on this!

Wolfpup is a team killer. A year or so ago we opened on a map and 9 seconds into the map, sawmill I believe, wolfpup was perma healing (ATTACHED and never breaks from enforcer)

Please, tell me I've never said out loud that I try and over-heal everyone around me because it increases MY survivability. Do I pocket Enforcer a lot? Yup, because he's proven time and time again I can count on him to accomplish something unlike others. Do I only uber him, at time, but ask the others who I trust to uber if I never pocket for them.

Wolfpup will often demand that the team plays 3 engies and 3 medics and if the team doesnt, he'll then start complaining how we're going to lose and about his back. Who are you to tell others what to play? what makes you qualified? Its a 15 year old F2P non comp game.

Well after all these years playing, yes, 3 engies and 3 medics tend to help red hold the objective better than with less. Are there times we do fine with less? Sure! But I'd hazard a good guess more often than not 3+3 wins out more often than not 3+3. I bet it's been the reason a steam roll has been squashed, quite often by me asking people to fill the rolls in this TEAM based game.

...usually to make him feel better about himself

or to enhance his game play

Lol, you got me.

What, you mean like help me to survive so I can continue to heal, and over-heal everyone around me? The nerve eh? How dare I request my team support their medics! (Engies give us a front line to fall back to and medics obviously help in staying alive, it aint rocket science.

I think the bottom line is that this ban is totally unjustified since its on the premise of one admin being mad at a donor for taking the spotlight away from them since it meant that they themselves couldn't unload their own personal baggage and get sympathy from the rest of the server. In the end we get Vector being banned for a week so an admin can feel better about themselves.

I'll start by saying sorry to you for threatening to ban you. I was wrong! They were idol threats BTW. (The old Zed would have known that.)

Damn, you guys are good. You have me all figured out now don't'cha.

Yet someone else with the "personal feelings" I supposedly was using. At least be a creative troll if you are going to troll.

I would 100% rather listen to a player talk about the game, even if it is rambling and incoherent at times (lol), than listen to someone drone on and on about their own personal problems with drugs and painkillers and grievances with other players. The server is not your personal therapy session. Please find help elsewhere.

Like Vector, you spelled "scream" wrong.

Sorry, does me having friends, to whom the comments are directed offend you for some reason? You can always mute me, like others keep suggesting in this thread. So Zed, I'm the same I've always been. I've always talked with Enforcer, Colo, Reggie, in game. Why now is it an issue?

So for the record I like playing with Vector. And I dont think it should be a banable offense. Maybe a temp voice mute. The problem I have is with the volume of voice traffic he is sending. Most of it repetitive which is good to get the team motivated. But in my judgement not very helpful from a tactical perspective.

So, I put it to you as well, after many temp comm bans, asking him nicely, then demanding it of him he stop, to no avail, what would you do?

I hope this ban appeal/complaint gets seen and addressed for a few reasons.

First-  Vector can be loud or exuberant on the server, but he doesn't speak out more than a lot of other regular players do,

and he is infinitely more positive when he does speak. He gives gameplay tips and strategies, and he encourages players to do stuff to win or support the team.

If he spoke, it wouldn't be an issue.

Repeating the same thing over and over at the top of your lungs, even if game tips is not positive or helpful.

it stands to reason that using your personal mute to avoid hearing Vector should be the go-to action, too.

Addressed

Second - Vector was banned by an admin (Wolfpup) with a strong history of questionable decisions and behavior.

Do share

Aside from his batshit insane personal history which he's publicly shared with the entire server on more than one occasion,

he has no qualms about threatening players or screaming at them over the mic.

Sorry if me being blunt about my life is too much for. I wasn't talking to you anyway.

You make it like I do it on a daily basis. Who do I threaten, and with what? (Other than last night seeing I already addressed it.)

I'm fine with whatever Plasma wants to do but some of you are outright LYING in this thread! If you don't like me, fine, mute me, but don't let your "personal feelings" make you lie just because you don't like me or my decisions.

More power to you if you can pull this off! I know I can't. What's your second favorite class?

Tied for first are sniper then D-bag scoot. D-bag scoot gives me more laughs and pleasure these days. Though Valve went and fucked up my original fun somewhat. I just need to get used to playing with the changes. Not a fan of "sticky feet" after Atomic Punch wears off. No self damage on the triple jump is nice.

I use option 2: http://hyperiongaming.org/index.php?topic=295.0

Works every time.

I'd about kill for any new maps at this point.

My only suggestion (so far) is if it can be changed to use the F keys instead of the number keys.

Yeah the last update screwed up the map voting system. Plasma knows and hopefully there will be a fix soon. (Not sure if it's a fix from his end or Valve's but I'll assume Valves.)

I was glad to see you on last night. More so to see you enjoyed yourself.

Welcome to our dysfunctional family one and all.