Therein lies the question. Do these two ever have a good day? I have excalibur muted but from what I recall he was generally miserable, liked to bring others down and extremely insulting. Seemingly hiding behind his admin badge. Wolfpup seems miserable. Demanding others play what he insists or he makes the team know he isnt happy and steady complaining about his health. That being said, if you arent happy is this your protected source to make others unhappy? And if you arent healthy maybe hours of gaming isnt for you. If your back hurts then maybe some exercise should be prescribed.

 I come here to relax. Laugh. Deflect rockets. Laugh. Taunt and teabag. Laugh. This is relaxation for me after a stressful day. NOT the stressful part of the day itself.

I understand what you're saying but my thoughts are "I'm not trying to overthrow the government", I'm just asking the leaders to reconsider a decision that has upset so many & sign the petition. If this were a mapvote, Vector would be unbanned, unfortunately it's not & like Cowking said, there's probably little we can do to change the situation at hand other than say "I'm Spartacus"

Personally, I feel like Enforcer's irate nature is one of the reasons I appreciate him as a admin. However, in the case of Cowking speaking out-- I think this is a very wrong handling of the situation. I view Cowking as the greatest merc in TF2, outweighting popular names like B4nny. I feel he's the one-true-jack-of-all-trades merc & a large reason why I keep coming back to the server, to treat the best player in TF2 like he's another john.smith230 is wrong.

What upsets me most about this situation is that his request was met with such a toxic response from more than one admin. Again, I don't think toppling the power is going to do anything but make it an awkward place for awhile but I do think it's the responsibility of the admins to consider the voice of the people. When one group of people rise to more power than the other, it starts to feel like a tyranny.

I think it's the responsibility of the admins, to treat the community and the rules with respect, it makes sense that Enforcer would want to take action with Vector's back-talk to him but again-- that's nothing a mute couldn't solve. A week-long ban seems excessive & a threaten to ban Cowking seems entirely out of the question.

I think the resolution I would like to see is an apology from both sides for acting out of emotion, rather than reason & an unban for Vector. Something to bring us together instead of separating us further apart. It takes two-to-tango and I'm tired of dancing.

I won't weigh in anymore on this situation, or parrot all ready articulated ideas & leave it up to whatever the admins rule.

Chuch.

I don't think this is a fair or justifiable violation of the rules. I just want to quickly weigh in my two-cents that it doesn't seem like he actually broke any rule. I'm a moderator of a community with 150k members & if I were to ban someone for something like this, my mod privilege would be taken away very quickly.

As admins your job is supposed to be done stoically & from what I've gathered (I wasn't there, only saw videos) this is all emotion. Vector's incessant "go left" or "go right" while true can be very annoying at times-- I find incredibly helpful. The constant reminder to do something & where to go, I have found being very good at directing myself. I believe this is a total miscall on the admins side since he's not doing anything offensive, like name-calling, porn sprays, exploits (actions that would justify a ban) and is instead just in disagreement with an admin.

I ask you to please reconsider & find other options of settling the dispute like the aforementioned "mute" it doesn't make sense to ban such an active member of a dying community.